[Po-dev] Re: Peripheral vein vs tertiary vein or high order vein

Maria A. Gandolfo mag4 at cornell.edu
Tue Apr 22 11:04:39 EDT 2008


There are also other kind of veins: fimbrial veins are formed by higher 
vein orders that are fused into a vein running just inside the 
margin.  These veins are completely different from the intramarginal veins. 
They are considered as part of the marginal ultimate venation.

Alejandra


At 10:42 AM 4/22/2008, Chih-Wei Tung wrote:
>Dear Jose Manuel,
>
>Great to know you are following our discussion. I am forwarding your 
>message to the group, please feel free to participate the discussion, so 
>we can provide more precise ontology terms to describe your mutant phenotype.
>
>Best,
>
>Chih-Wei
>
>On Apr 22, 2008, at 10:12 AM, Perez Perez, Jose Manuel wrote:
>>Dear Chih-Wei,
>>
>>I've been following the discussion about the "peripheral vein" term that 
>>we proposed for the AGRON-OMICS Leaf ontology, as I see it, I totally 
>>agree that peripheral vein is a diffuse term that includes higher order 
>>veins. Somebody came across using marginal veins to refer to the closest 
>>veins at the margin and that is a good solution too. We were interested 
>>in finding a term to describe some mutants that have disconnected veins 
>>and, as a consequence, peripheral (or marginal) veins are absent.
>>
>>I am happy to see the amount of feedback you've got for our specific 
>>request. That means that people is really interested in finding proper 
>>and shared terms to describe structures that allow later high-throughput 
>>comparison between species.
>>
>>All the best,
>>
>>Jose Manuel
>>
>>--
>>Jose M Perez-Perez, PhD
>>Division de Genetica
>>UMH - Campus de Elche
>>Edificio Vinalopo
>>03202 Elche (Alicante), Spain
>>
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>>De: Chih-Wei Tung [<mailto:cwt6 at cornell.edu>mailto:cwt6 at cornell.edu]
>>Enviado el: 21 April 2008 18:02
>>Para: Maria A. Gandolfo
>>CC: <mailto:po-dev at plantontology.org>po-dev at plantontology.org; Dennis 
>>Stevenson; Fabio Fiorani; Perez Perez, Jose Manuel
>>Asunto: Re: Peripheral vein vs tertiary vein or high order vein
>>
>>Hi Alejandra,
>>
>>Thank  you for quick reply.
>>I also found a review paper "Evolution and Function of leaf venation 
>>architecture", it has a  "brochidodromous venation" picture (see pdf 
>>attachment). I will also look into those papers you mentioned here.
>>
>>One thing I am puzzled is the photo has a pink highlight at the 
>>peripheral region, it's likely AGRON-OMICS are interested in that 
>>particular structure (peripheral vein), do you know if there is any 
>>specific terminology to describe such joined vein structure? Can we call 
>>it "brochidodromous vein" ?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Chih-Wei
>>
>
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