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<font size=3>There are also other kind of veins: fimbrial veins are
formed by higher vein orders that are fused into a vein running just
inside the margin. These veins are completely different from the
intramarginal veins. They are considered as part of the marginal ultimate
venation. <br><br>
Alejandra<br><br>
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At 10:42 AM 4/22/2008, Chih-Wei Tung wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Dear Jose Manuel,<br><br>
Great to know you are following our discussion. I am forwarding your
message to the group, please feel free to participate the discussion, so
we can provide more precise ontology terms to describe your mutant
phenotype. <br><br>
Best,<br><br>
Chih-Wei<br><br>
On Apr 22, 2008, at 10:12 AM, Perez Perez, Jose Manuel wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Dear Chih-Wei,<br>
<br>
I’ve been following the discussion about the “peripheral vein” term that
we proposed for the AGRON-OMICS Leaf ontology, as I see it, I totally
agree that peripheral vein is a diffuse term that includes higher order
veins. Somebody came across using marginal veins to refer to the closest
veins at the margin and that is a good solution too. We were interested
in finding a term to describe some mutants that have disconnected veins
and, as a consequence, peripheral (or marginal) veins are absent.<br>
<br>
I am happy to see the amount of feedback you’ve got for our specific
request. That means that people is really interested in finding proper
and shared terms to describe structures that allow later high-throughput
comparison between species.<br>
<br>
All the best,<br>
<br>
Jose Manuel<br>
<br>
--<br>
Jose M Perez-Perez, PhD<br>
Division de Genetica<br>
UMH - Campus de Elche<br>
Edificio Vinalopo<br>
03202 Elche (Alicante), Spain<br>
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Tel.: +34 966 658 512<br>
Fax: +34 966 658 511<br>
<a href="http://genetica.umh.es/">http://genetica.umh.es</a><br>
<b>De:</b> Chih-Wei Tung
[<a href="mailto:cwt6@cornell.edu">mailto:cwt6@cornell.edu</a>] <br>
<b>Enviado el:</b> 21 April 2008 18:02<br>
<b>Para:</b> Maria A. Gandolfo<br>
<b>CC:</b>
<a href="mailto:po-dev@plantontology.org">po-dev@plantontology.org</a>;
Dennis Stevenson; Fabio Fiorani; Perez Perez, Jose Manuel<br>
<b>Asunto:</b> Re: Peripheral vein vs tertiary vein or high order
vein<br>
<br>
Hi Alejandra,<br>
<br>
Thank you for quick reply. <br>
I also found a review paper "Evolution and Function of leaf venation
architecture", it has a "brochidodromous venation"
picture (see pdf attachment). I will also look into those papers you
mentioned here. <br>
<br>
One thing I am puzzled is the photo has a pink highlight at the
peripheral region, it's likely AGRON-OMICS are interested in that
particular structure (peripheral vein), do you know if there is any
specific terminology to describe such joined vein structure? Can we call
it "brochidodromous vein" ? <br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
<br>
Chih-Wei<br>
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