Proposal for the new term in Plant Structure Ont: middle layer

Pankaj Jaiswal pj37 at cornell.edu
Wed Feb 1 14:23:32 EST 2006


Can we implement this. I need this term for curation now.
-Pankaj

kellogge wrote:

> Sounds reasonable to me.
> Toby
> 
> On Jan 10, 2006, at 9:17 AM, Pankaj Jaiswal wrote:
> 
>     Here is my suggestion. As of now this is the only instance of
>     "middle layer' in the ontology. Therefore, we can have the term
>     named 'middle layer' with a clear definition that this is the one
>     found in anthers. Obviously the parent will be anther term. At a
>     later time where there is another instance we can consider revising
>     the name to 'anther wall: middle layer'. Yes having a colon is fine
>     in the term name.
> 
>     -Pankaj
> 
>     Vincent, Leszek wrote:
> 
>         I support Toby's view & understand Katica's counter of the
>         placement of
>         the term. My compromise for consideration is provide information
>         in the
>         comment field where the 'middle layer' term's affinity can be
>         explicitly
>         stated. That way, should the PO structure be changed down the
>         line the
>         term's affinity would still be interpretable. Still, my slight
>         preference is for a more explicit term (Toby's choice) so that
>         affinity
>         is clearly recognizable from the term name - straight off.
>         - Leszek
>         -----Original Message-----
>         From: owner-po-dev at plantontology.org
>         [mailto:owner-po-dev at plantontology.org] On Behalf Of
>         katica at acoma.Stanford.EDU
>         Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 1:38 PM
>         To: po-dev at plantontology.org; Kellogg, Elizabeth A.
>         Subject: Re: Proposal for the new term in Plant Structure Ont:
>         middle
>         layer
>         Hi Toby,
>         I know, I mentioned it yesterday on the conf call. However, its
>         position
>         in the ontology leaves little doubt what the term is. We have other
>         terms that have a bit uninformative term name, for example,
>         'protective
>         layer', or 'separation layer', of the abscission zone; it
>         becomes obvious only when you see the ontology tree (and
>         definition too).
>         'Middle layer of the anther wall' as a term name, I guess if we
>         have to (to avoid confussion), it wouldn't be the worst name out
>         there. Google
>         search retrieved mostly middle layer of the anther wall. I did find
>         'middle layer' in description of the intervascular pit membranes
>         in some woody
>         species (Salix, Acer...). Peter and Quentin could tell us more
>         about how
>         often this term is used in anatomy of woody species.
>         Katica
>         On Sat, 7 Jan 2006, kellogge wrote:
> 
>             hi Katica -
>             My only concern is that "middle layer" is such an
>             uninformative term
> 
>         on
> 
>             its own. I"m wondering if this is a case where we need to
>             call it
> 
>         "middle
> 
>             layer of anther wall". (I know - I'm suggesting a complex
>             term where
> 
>         one
> 
>             isn't strictly needed. It just seems that there are a lot of
>             things
> 
>         that
> 
>             could have middle layers.)
>             Toby
> 
>             On Jan 6, 2006, at 6:50 PM, katica at acoma.Stanford.EDU wrote:
> 
> 
>                 Hi All,
> 
>                 This is the proposal for introduction of the new term in
>                 the Plant Structure Ontology, 'middle layer':
> 
>                 New term name: Middle layer
>                 Definition: Usually a single cell layer between tapetum and
> 
>         endothecium
> 
>                 which almost invariably degenerates early during
>                 angiosperm anther development and is eventually absorbed
>                 by adjacent cells.
> 
>                 Proposed ontology structure:
> 
>                 PO:0000002 : anther wall
>                 (p) PO:0020002 : endothecium
>                 (p) PO:0020004 : exothecium
>                 (p) PO:0020005 : placentoid
>                 (p) PO:0020101 : stomium
>                 (p) PO:0009071 : tapetum
>                 (p) new term: middle layer
> 
>                 I am planning to introduce this term to the PO a week
>                 from today,
> 
>         unless
> 
>                 active discussion takes place regarding this term over
>                 the next week
> 
>         at
> 
>                 po-dev mailing list. I would greatly appreciate your
>                 comments and suggestions.
> 
>                 Thanks and have a great weekend.
> 
>                 Katica Ilic
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Elizabeth A. Kellogg
> E. Desmond Lee and Family Professor of Botanical Studies
> Department of Biology
> University of Missouri-St. Louis
> St. Louis, MO 63121
> Tel: 314-516-6217
> FAX: 314-516-6233
> http://www.umsl.edu/services/kellogg/
> 


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