Proposal for the new term in Plant Structure Ont: middle layer

[katica at acoma.stanford.edu]

I have this term on the list for the Friday conf call, to briefly disccus 
the term name. If we agree on the name, the term will be added to the PO 
on Moday.

Katica

On Wed, 1 Feb 2006, Pankaj Jaiswal wrote:

> Can we implement this. I need this term for curation now.
> -Pankaj
>
> kellogge wrote:
>
>> Sounds reasonable to me.
>> Toby
>> 
>> On Jan 10, 2006, at 9:17 AM, Pankaj Jaiswal wrote:
>> 
>>     Here is my suggestion. As of now this is the only instance of
>>     "middle layer' in the ontology. Therefore, we can have the term
>>     named 'middle layer' with a clear definition that this is the one
>>     found in anthers. Obviously the parent will be anther term. At a
>>     later time where there is another instance we can consider revising
>>     the name to 'anther wall: middle layer'. Yes having a colon is fine
>>     in the term name.
>> 
>>     -Pankaj
>> 
>>     Vincent, Leszek wrote:
>> 
>>         I support Toby's view & understand Katica's counter of the
>>         placement of
>>         the term. My compromise for consideration is provide information
>>         in the
>>         comment field where the 'middle layer' term's affinity can be
>>         explicitly
>>         stated. That way, should the PO structure be changed down the
>>         line the
>>         term's affinity would still be interpretable. Still, my slight
>>         preference is for a more explicit term (Toby's choice) so that
>>         affinity
>>         is clearly recognizable from the term name - straight off.
>>         - Leszek
>>         -----Original Message-----
>>         From: owner-po-dev at plantontology.org
>>         [mailto:owner-po-dev at plantontology.org] On Behalf Of
>>         katica at acoma.Stanford.EDU
>>         Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 1:38 PM
>>         To: po-dev at plantontology.org; Kellogg, Elizabeth A.
>>         Subject: Re: Proposal for the new term in Plant Structure Ont:
>>         middle
>>         layer
>>         Hi Toby,
>>         I know, I mentioned it yesterday on the conf call. However, its
>>         position
>>         in the ontology leaves little doubt what the term is. We have other
>>         terms that have a bit uninformative term name, for example,
>>         'protective
>>         layer', or 'separation layer', of the abscission zone; it
>>         becomes obvious only when you see the ontology tree (and
>>         definition too).
>>         'Middle layer of the anther wall' as a term name, I guess if we
>>         have to (to avoid confussion), it wouldn't be the worst name out
>>         there. Google
>>         search retrieved mostly middle layer of the anther wall. I did find
>>         'middle layer' in description of the intervascular pit membranes
>>         in some woody
>>         species (Salix, Acer...). Peter and Quentin could tell us more
>>         about how
>>         often this term is used in anatomy of woody species.
>>         Katica
>>         On Sat, 7 Jan 2006, kellogge wrote:
>> 
>>             hi Katica -
>>             My only concern is that "middle layer" is such an
>>             uninformative term
>> 
>>         on
>> 
>>             its own. I"m wondering if this is a case where we need to
>>             call it
>> 
>>         "middle
>> 
>>             layer of anther wall". (I know - I'm suggesting a complex
>>             term where
>> 
>>         one
>> 
>>             isn't strictly needed. It just seems that there are a lot of
>>             things
>> 
>>         that
>> 
>>             could have middle layers.)
>>             Toby
>> 
>>             On Jan 6, 2006, at 6:50 PM, katica at acoma.Stanford.EDU wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>                 Hi All,
>> 
>>                 This is the proposal for introduction of the new term in
>>                 the Plant Structure Ontology, 'middle layer':
>> 
>>                 New term name: Middle layer
>>                 Definition: Usually a single cell layer between tapetum and
>> 
>>         endothecium
>> 
>>                 which almost invariably degenerates early during
>>                 angiosperm anther development and is eventually absorbed
>>                 by adjacent cells.
>> 
>>                 Proposed ontology structure:
>> 
>>                 PO:0000002 : anther wall
>>                 (p) PO:0020002 : endothecium
>>                 (p) PO:0020004 : exothecium
>>                 (p) PO:0020005 : placentoid
>>                 (p) PO:0020101 : stomium
>>                 (p) PO:0009071 : tapetum
>>                 (p) new term: middle layer
>> 
>>                 I am planning to introduce this term to the PO a week
>>                 from today,
>> 
>>         unless
>> 
>>                 active discussion takes place regarding this term over
>>                 the next week
>> 
>>         at
>> 
>>                 po-dev mailing list. I would greatly appreciate your
>>                 comments and suggestions.
>> 
>>                 Thanks and have a great weekend.
>> 
>>                 Katica Ilic
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Elizabeth A. Kellogg
>> E. Desmond Lee and Family Professor of Botanical Studies
>> Department of Biology
>> University of Missouri-St. Louis
>> St. Louis, MO 63121
>> Tel: 314-516-6217
>> FAX: 314-516-6233
>> http://www.umsl.edu/services/kellogg/
>> 
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>
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