[Gmod-help] Re: GMOD Nabble Archive Changes

[Scott Cain]

Excellent--thanks so much!

On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Dave Clements
<clements at galaxyproject.org> wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> Done.  It was easy.  However, the subscribe links now point to
> http://gmod.org/wiki/GMOD_Mailing_Lists#Overview_Lists, instead of directly
> to each list's subscribe interface.
>
> Dave C.
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Dave Clements <clements at galaxyproject.org>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> Note: Scott is probably the only one who will care about this.
>>
>> When I started at Galaxy I created Nabble Archives for the Galaxy Mailing
>> lists, just like I did at GMOD.  Nabble archives are far better than
>> Sourceforge or Mailman archives.  They are threaded and easy to search.
>> However, Nabble really wants to be a forum, not a mailing list archive.
>> This has caused trouble over the years, with people wanting to
>> subscribe/post/reply to the Nabble forum, which is not really connected to
>> Mailman.  This is irritating for them at best.
>>
>> I just figured out how to fix this.  I am attaching the description of how
>> it was done.  There is a page in the help desk wiki on Nabble.  At some
>> point my replacement should update that doc.
>>
>> I'm going to take a peek at the GMOD Nabble archive and see if I can
>> easily make the same changes there.  If I can, I will do so.*  I will let
>> you know how it goes.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Dave C.
>>
>> * The Galaxy and GMOD archives are structured differently.  GMOD will
>> either be much easier or much harder.
>>
>> NAML
>>
>> Nabble markets itself as both a place for forums where you can post
>> questions and responses, and as an archive for existing lists. However, it
>> really wants to be a forum, and not an archive. The default behavior is to
>> include all sorts of stuff like "subscribe", "new topic", and "reply" that
>> we want to happen on the mailing list, not just on Nabble.
>>
>> NAML, the markup language used to control page layout at Nabble, allows
>> you to override this default behavior. It was far easier to figure out than
>> I expected.
>>
>> Navigating and Updating NAML
>>
>> To update the markup for a page, you must first login as the admin of that
>> list. For the Galaxy lists, the user is outreach at galaxyproject.org
>>
>> To get into NAML, click on See how NAML generates this page at the bottom
>> of any page. From there you can navigate either by
>>
>> clicking on Macro names in the code, to explore how things are called, or
>> clicking on the cog near the top of the page and either searching for text
>> or for a macro by name.
>>
>> The directions on this page describe both methods. However, once you know
>> the name of the macro to change, it is easier just to go their directly.
>>
>> Changes Made
>>
>> Remove New Topic Links
>>
>> We don't allow people to create new topics. However, Nabble still displays
>> a link that says New Topic. If you click on it, it tells you "You cannot
>> post here"
>>
>> On Forum Landing Page
>>
>> Click on See how NAML generates this page
>>
>> Click on view_standard_page
>>
>> Click on Override this macro
>>
>> Delete the line (about line 9) that says <n.new_topic_action_link/>
>>
>> Click on Save Changes
>>
>> Test it. The New Topic link should no longer appear.
>>
>> Replace Subscribe Links
>>
>> Nabble's default subscribe links do a pseudo-subscribe where the user is
>> not actually subscribed in Mailman. This is evil. Instead replace those
>> links with links to the Mailman subscribe page.
>>
>> On Forum Landing Page
>>
>> Click on See how NAML generates this page
>>
>> Click on view_standard_page
>>
>> Click on options_action_menu
>>
>> Click on app_dropdown
>>
>> Click on menu_subscription
>>
>> Click on subscribe_link
>>
>> Click on Override this macro
>>
>> Replace this line (line 2):
>>
>> <a  href="[n.subscribe_path/]" class="[n.class/]" rel="nofollow"
>> title="[n.title/]"><n.default. to="[t]Subscribe via
>> email[/t]"><n.text/></n.default.></a>
>>
>> with this line:
>>
>> <a  href="http://lists.bx.psu.edu/listinfo/galaxy-announce"
>> class="[n.class/]" rel="nofollow" title="[n.title/]"><n.default.
>> to="[t]Subscribe to  Galaxy-Announce[/t]"><n.text/></n.default.></a>
>>
>> Click on Save Changes
>>
>> Test it. The Options → Subscribe via email link should now be Options →
>> Subscribe to Galaxy-Announce and should link to Mailman.
>>
>> On Other Pages
>>
>> Updating the subscribe_link macro above has the miraculous property of
>> fixing the link everywhere. God bless those Nabble folk.
>>
>> Remove Reply links on thread pages
>>
>> Click on See how NAML generates this page from any page
>>
>> Click on the Cog Pulldown near the top of the page and select Search
>> Macros
>>
>> Enter reply_link in the search box.
>>
>> Click on reply_link and then Override this macro
>>
>> Delete the body of the Macro leaving the start and finish lines.
>>
>>
>>
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