[Gmod-help] Re: GMOD Nabble Archive Changes

[Dave Clements]

Hello all,

Done.  It was easy.  However, the subscribe links now point to
http://gmod.org/wiki/GMOD_Mailing_Lists#Overview_Lists, instead of directly
to each list's subscribe interface.

Dave C.

On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Dave Clements
<clements at galaxyproject.org>wrote:

> Hello All,
>
> Note: Scott is probably the only one who will care about this.
>
> When I started at Galaxy I created Nabble Archives for the Galaxy Mailing
> lists, just like I did at GMOD.  Nabble archives are far better than
> Sourceforge or Mailman archives.  They are threaded and easy to search.
> However, Nabble really wants to be a forum, not a mailing list archive.
> This has caused trouble over the years, with people wanting to
> subscribe/post/reply to the Nabble forum, which is not really connected to
> Mailman.  This is irritating for them at best.
>
> I just figured out how to fix this.  I am attaching the description of how
> it was done.  There is a page in the help desk wiki on Nabble.  At some
> point my replacement should update that doc.
>
> I'm going to take a peek at the GMOD Nabble archive and see if I can
> easily make the same changes there.  If I can, I will do so.*  I will let
> you know how it goes.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave C.
>
> * The Galaxy and GMOD archives are structured differently.  GMOD will
> either be much easier or much harder.
>
> NAML
>
> Nabble markets itself as both a place for forums where you can post
> questions and responses, and as an archive for existing lists. However, it
> really wants to be a forum, and not an archive. The default behavior is to
> include all sorts of stuff like "subscribe", "new topic", and "reply" that
> we want to happen on the mailing list, not just on Nabble.
>
> NAML <http://naml.nabble.com/>, the markup language used to control page
> layout at Nabble <http://nabble.com/>, allows you to override this
> default behavior. It was far easier to figure out than I expected.
>
> Navigating and Updating NAML
>
> To update the markup for a page, you must first login as the admin of that
> list. For the Galaxy lists, the user is *outreach at galaxyproject.org*
>
> To get into NAML, *click* on *See how NAML generates this page* at the
> bottom of any page. From there you can navigate either by
>
>    1. clicking on Macro names in the code, to explore how things are
>    called, or
>    2. clicking on the cog near the top of the page and either searching
>    for text or for a macro by name.
>
> The directions on this page describe both methods. However, once you know
> the name of the macro to change, it is easier just to go their directly.
>
> Changes Made
>
> Remove New Topic Links
>
> We don't allow people to create new topics. However, Nabble still displays
> a link that says *New Topic*. If you click on it, it tells you "You
> cannot post here"
>
> On Forum Landing Page
>
>    1.
>
>    *Click* on *See how NAML generates this page*
>    2.
>
>    *Click* on *view_standard_page*
>    3.
>
>    *Click* on *Override this macro*
>    4.
>
>    *Delete* the line (about line 9) that says *<n.new_topic_action_link/>*
>    5.
>
>    *Click* on *Save Changes*
>    6.
>
>    Test it. The *New Topic* link should no longer appear.
>
> Replace Subscribe Links
>
> Nabble's default subscribe links do a pseudo-subscribe where the user is
> not actually subscribed in Mailman. This is evil. Instead replace those
> links with links to the Mailman subscribe page.
>
> On Forum Landing Page
>
>    1.
>
>    *Click* on *See how NAML generates this page*
>    2.
>
>    *Click* on *view_standard_page*
>    3.
>
>    *Click* on *options_action_menu*
>    4.
>
>    *Click* on *app_dropdown*
>    5.
>
>    *Click* on *menu_subscription*
>    6.
>
>    *Click* on *subscribe_link*
>    7.
>
>    *Click* on *Override this macro*
>    8.
>
>    *Replace* this line (line 2):
>    -
>
>       <a href="[n.subscribe_path/]" class="[n.class/]" rel="nofollow"
>       title="[n.title/]"><n.default. to="[t]Subscribe via
>       email[/t]"><n.text/></n.default.></a>
>       with this line:
>       -
>
>       <a href="http://lists.bx.psu.edu/listinfo/galaxy-announce"
>       class="[n.class/]" rel="nofollow" title="[n.title/]"><n.default.
>       to="[t]Subscribe to Galaxy-Announce[/t]"><n.text/></n.default.></a>
>       9.
>
>    *Click* on *Save Changes*
>    10.
>
>    Test it. The *Options → Subscribe via email* link should now be *Options
>    → Subscribe to Galaxy-Announce* and should link to Mailman.
>
> On Other Pages
>
> Updating the *subscribe_link* macro above has the miraculous property of
> fixing the link everywhere. God bless those Nabble folk.
>
> Remove Reply links on thread pages
>
>    1.
>
>    *Click* on *See how NAML generates this page* from any page
>    2.
>
>    *Click* on the *Cog Pulldown* near the top of the page and *select* *Search
>    Macros*
>    3.
>
>    *Enter* reply_link in the search box.
>    4.
>
>    *Click* on *reply_link* and then *Override this macro*
>    5.
>
>    *Delete* the body of the Macro leaving the start and finish lines.
>
>
>
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