[Gmod-help] Re: GMOD Nabble Archive Changes

[Hilmar Lapp]

That sounds great - thanks Dave!!

	-hilmar

On Feb 8, 2012, at 2:06 PM, Dave Clements wrote:

> Hello all,
> 
> Done.  It was easy.  However, the subscribe links now point to http://gmod.org/wiki/GMOD_Mailing_Lists#Overview_Lists, instead of directly to each list's subscribe interface.
> 
> Dave C.
> 
> On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Dave Clements <clements at galaxyproject.org> wrote:
> Hello All,
> 
> Note: Scott is probably the only one who will care about this.
> 
> When I started at Galaxy I created Nabble Archives for the Galaxy Mailing lists, just like I did at GMOD.  Nabble archives are far better than Sourceforge or Mailman archives.  They are threaded and easy to search.  However, Nabble really wants to be a forum, not a mailing list archive.  This has caused trouble over the years, with people wanting to subscribe/post/reply to the Nabble forum, which is not really connected to Mailman.  This is irritating for them at best.
> 
> I just figured out how to fix this.  I am attaching the description of how it was done.  There is a page in the help desk wiki on Nabble.  At some point my replacement should update that doc.
> 
> I'm going to take a peek at the GMOD Nabble archive and see if I can easily make the same changes there.  If I can, I will do so.*  I will let you know how it goes.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Dave C.
> 
> * The Galaxy and GMOD archives are structured differently.  GMOD will either be much easier or much harder.
> 
> NAML
> 
> Nabble markets itself as both a place for forums where you can post questions and responses, and as an archive for existing lists. However, it really wants to be a forum, and not an archive. The default behavior is to include all sorts of stuff like "subscribe", "new topic", and "reply" that we want to happen on the mailing list, not just on Nabble.
> 
> NAML, the markup language used to control page layout at Nabble, allows you to override this default behavior. It was far easier to figure out than I expected.
> 
> 
> Navigating and Updating NAML
> 
> To update the markup for a page, you must first login as the admin of that list. For the Galaxy lists, the user is outreach at galaxyproject.org
> 
> To get into NAML, click on See how NAML generates this page at the bottom of any page. From there you can navigate either by
> 
> clicking on Macro names in the code, to explore how things are called, or
> clicking on the cog near the top of the page and either searching for text or for a macro by name.
> The directions on this page describe both methods. However, once you know the name of the macro to change, it is easier just to go their directly.
> 
> 
> Changes Made
> 
> 
> Remove New Topic Links
> 
> We don't allow people to create new topics. However, Nabble still displays a link that says New Topic. If you click on it, it tells you "You cannot post here"
> 
> 
> On Forum Landing Page
> 
> Click on See how NAML generates this page
> 
> Click on view_standard_page
> 
> Click on Override this macro
> 
> Delete the line (about line 9) that says <n.new_topic_action_link/>
> 
> Click on Save Changes
> 
> Test it. The New Topic link should no longer appear.
> 
> 
> Replace Subscribe Links
> 
> Nabble's default subscribe links do a pseudo-subscribe where the user is not actually subscribed in Mailman. This is evil. Instead replace those links with links to the Mailman subscribe page.
> 
> 
> On Forum Landing Page
> 
> Click on See how NAML generates this page
> 
> Click on view_standard_page
> 
> Click on options_action_menu
> 
> Click on app_dropdown
> 
> Click on menu_subscription
> 
> Click on subscribe_link
> 
> Click on Override this macro
> 
> Replace this line (line 2):
> 
> <a  href="[n.subscribe_path/]" class="[n.class/]" rel="nofollow"  title="[n.title/]"><n.default. to="[t]Subscribe via  email[/t]"><n.text/></n.default.></a>
> 
> with this line:
> <a  href="http://lists.bx.psu.edu/listinfo/galaxy-announce"  class="[n.class/]" rel="nofollow" title="[n.title/]"><n.default.  to="[t]Subscribe to  Galaxy-Announce[/t]"><n.text/></n.default.></a>
> 
> Click on Save Changes
> 
> Test it. The Options → Subscribe via email link should now be Options → Subscribe to Galaxy-Announce and should link to Mailman.
> 
> 
> On Other Pages
> 
> Updating the subscribe_link macro above has the miraculous property of fixing the link everywhere. God bless those Nabble folk.
> 
> 
> Remove Reply links on thread pages
> 
> Click on See how NAML generates this page from any page
> 
> Click on the Cog Pulldown near the top of the page and select Search Macros
> 
> Enter reply_link in the search box.
> 
> Click on reply_link and then Override this macro
> 
> Delete the body of the Macro leaving the start and finish lines.
> 
> 
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