[Po-dev] Re: Peripheral vein vs tertiary vein or high order vein

[Chih-Wei Tung]

Hi Alejandra,

One more question, does this term " rochidodromous arch"  only  
specific to secondary vein or can be used in any vein order?

Chih-Wei




On Apr 21, 2008, at 12:23 PM, Maria A. Gandolfo wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> More than brochidodromous vein it is a "brochidodromous arch".
>
> Hickey, L.J. 1973.  Classification of the architecture of  
> Dicotyledonous leaves. Amer. J. Bot 60: 17-33.
>
> Dilcher, D.L. 1974.  Approaches to the identification of  
> angiosperms leaves. Bot Rev. 40
>
> Leaf architecture Working group. 1999. Manual of leaf  
> architecture.  65 p.
>
>
> Alejandra
> At 12:01 PM 4/21/2008, you wrote:
>> Hi Alejandra,
>>
>> Thank  you for quick reply.
>> I also found a review paper "Evolution and Function of leaf venation
>> architecture", it has a  "brochidodromous venation" picture (see pdf
>> attachment). I will also look into those papers you mentioned here.
>>
>> One thing I am puzzled is the photo has a pink highlight at the
>> peripheral region, it's likely AGRON-OMICS are interested in that
>> particular structure (peripheral vein), do you know if there is any
>> specific terminology to describe such joined vein structure? Can we
>> call it "brochidodromous vein" ?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Chih-Wei
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 21, 2008, at 11:34 AM, Maria A. Gandolfo wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi Chih-Wei,
>>>
>>> For many years paleobotanists have used leaf architecture as one
>>> tool to describe leaf remains.
>>>
>>> There are several papers that address  the leaf vein architecture
>>> terminology (Dilcher 1973, Hickey 1974 and more recently LAWG 1999).
>>>
>>> What the photo is showing is considered to be the typical
>>> brochidodromous venation (secondary veins joined together in a
>>> series of prominent arches).
>>>
>>>
>>> If you want the papers I mentioned, I can send them to you
>>>
>>> Alejandra
>>>
>>>
>>> At 10:27 AM 4/21/2008, you wrote:
>>>> Dear PO developers,
>>>>
>>>> We recently got a request from AGRONO-MICS group regarding to the
>>>> term " peripheral vein: a vein located toward the margin of the  
>>>> leaf
>>>> lamina" (see attached picture).
>>>> Pankaj raised a issue about how peripheral vein differs from  
>>>> tertiary
>>>> vein or high order vein, it is very tricky to determine the vein
>>>> orders when the veins form a continuous structure at the proximal
>>>> ends.  If you have any thoughts about this structure, please share
>>>> wit us, we would like to resolve it as soon as possible.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Chih-Wei
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Content-Type: application/octet-stream;
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>>>> Content-Disposition: attachment;
>>>>          filename="peripheral vein.doc"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Alejandra,
>>
>> Thank  you for quick reply.
>> I also found a review paper "Evolution and Function of leaf  
>> venation architecture", it has a  "brochidodromous venation"  
>> picture (see pdf attachment). I will also look into those papers  
>> you mentioned here.
>>
>> One thing I am puzzled is the photo has a pink highlight at the  
>> peripheral region, it's likely AGRON-OMICS are interested in that  
>> particular structure (peripheral vein), do you know if there is  
>> any specific terminology to describe such joined vein structure?  
>> Can we call it "brochidodromous vein" ?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Chih-Wei
>>
>>
>> Content-Type: application/pdf;
>>          x-mac-type=50444620;
>>          x-unix-mode=0644;
>>          x-mac-creator=4341524F;
>>          name=Evolution and function of leaf venation architecture- 
>> review.pdf
>> Content-Disposition: inline;
>>          filename="Evolution and function of leaf venation  
>> architecture-review.pdf"
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 21, 2008, at 11:34 AM, Maria A. Gandolfo wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Chih-Wei,
>>>
>>> For many years paleobotanists have used leaf architecture as one  
>>> tool to describe leaf remains.
>>>
>>> There are several papers that address  the leaf vein architecture  
>>> terminology (Dilcher 1973, Hickey 1974 and more recently LAWG 1999).
>>>
>>> What the photo is showing is considered to be the typical  
>>> brochidodromous venation (secondary veins joined together in a  
>>> series of prominent arches).
>>>
>>>
>>> If you want the papers I mentioned, I can send them to you
>>>
>>> Alejandra
>>>
>>>
>>> At 10:27 AM 4/21/2008, you wrote:
>>>> Dear PO developers,
>>>>
>>>> We recently got a request from AGRONO-MICS group regarding to the
>>>> term " peripheral vein: a vein located toward the margin of the  
>>>> leaf
>>>> lamina" (see attached picture).
>>>> Pankaj raised a issue about how peripheral vein differs from  
>>>> tertiary
>>>> vein or high order vein, it is very tricky to determine the vein
>>>> orders when the veins form a continuous structure at the proximal
>>>> ends.  If you have any thoughts about this structure, please share
>>>> wit us, we would like to resolve it as soon as possible.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Chih-Wei
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Content-Type: application/octet-stream;
>>>>          x-mac-type=5738424E;
>>>>          x-unix-mode=0644;
>>>>          x-mac-creator=4D535744;
>>>>          name=peripheral vein.doc
>>>> Content-Disposition: attachment;
>>>>          filename="peripheral vein.doc"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>

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