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<P><FONT size=2>Dear Pankaj,<BR><BR>Sorry, if this took time but I wanted to
double check with one of the world international expert on citrus, Dr Roland
Cottin, who provided the following definitions which I hope will be useful
for this exercise which I think is really important for our community. They are
as follows:</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=2>QUOTE</FONT></P><FONT size=2>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=167231209-08062006><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=821475310-08062006>In my
opinion :</SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=167231209-08062006><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=821475310-08062006></SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=167231209-08062006><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=821475310-08062006>- Albedo = mesocarp of
Citrus fruits, inner part of peel (skin, rind) often spongious and almost always
white (Albedo word come from Alba = white)</SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=167231209-08062006><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=821475310-08062006>- Flavedo = epicarp of
Citrus fruits, outer part of peel (skin, rind) that contains oil glands, and
almost always brightly coloured (Flavedo word come from
Flavour)</SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=167231209-08062006><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=821475310-08062006>- Pulp = common name for
endocarp in Citrus fruits (also called flesh)</SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=167231209-08062006><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=821475310-08062006>- Endocarp = Inner part of
the citrus fruit, composed of less than 5 to more than 15 segments and a central
axis, less or more hollow</SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=167231209-08062006><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=821475310-08062006>- Segment = type of bag in
pulp which contains juice vesicles (also called juice bags) and seeds (in case
of seedy fruits)</SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=167231209-08062006><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=821475310-08062006>- Juice bag = little bag,
gathered in a bigger one (segment) that may contains generally coloured juice.
Some relatives to Citrus fruits have "Juice bag" but without juice, only
membrane !</SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff>UNQUOTE</FONT><BR><BR><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>Hope this
helps and please do not hesitate to contact Roland should you require further
information.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>Adriana</FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: Pankaj
Jaiswal [<A href="mailto:pj37@cornell.edu">mailto:pj37@cornell.edu</A>]<BR>Sent:
Tuesday, June 06, 2006 10:21 PM<BR>To: po-dev@plantontology.org; Alercia,
Adriana (IPGRI - Rome)<BR>Cc: Peter Stevens<BR>Subject: Re: new terms / synonyms
for citrus terms<BR><BR>Dear Adriana,<BR><BR>I did browse the literature and see
that citrus community do call the Albedo equivalent to mesocarp. If so I would
take your word.<BR><BR>Whereas for Endocarp being pulp, is not very clear. Seems
that there is a very thin layer of endocarp (innermost epidermis) may/may not be
visible in the developed fruit.<BR><BR>The citation at<BR><A
href="http://www.chineseplantscience.com/earticle_read.asp?id=12171">http://www.chineseplantscience.com/earticle_read.asp?id=12171</A><BR>refers
that juice sac is a multicellular structure that develops from the innermost
epidermis of the carpel which I see is equivalent to endocarp. This means that
juice sac being a derivation cannot be referred as endocarp. If you can confirm
isn't the pulp equivalent to juice sac.<BR><BR>Based on this can you provide us
a definition of 'juice sac'.<BR><BR>Pankaj<BR><BR>Alercia, Adriana (IPGRI -
Rome) wrote:<BR><BR>> Hello,<BR>> <BR>> Am not quite convinced
that Albedo is a synonym of Endocarp.... I<BR>> think that 'Albedo' is
related to MESOCARP (white tissue of rind of<BR>> citrus) while ENDOCARP is
related to the pulp.<BR>> <BR>> Adriana<BR>>
----------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>>
--<BR>> From: owner-po-dev@plantontology.org<BR>> [<A
href="mailto:owner-po-dev@plantontology.org">mailto:owner-po-dev@plantontology.org</A>]
On Behalf Of Peter Stevens<BR>> Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 9:15 PM<BR>>
To: po-dev@plantontology.org; Pankaj Jaiswal<BR>> Subject: Re: new terms /
synonyms for citrus terms<BR>><BR>>> Hi,<BR>><BR>>> In the
just concluded POC workshop at Cornell, certain term<BR>>> requirements
came in from Citrus functional genomics project.<BR>><BR>>> The
following plant structures that need either a new term or added<BR>>> as
synonyms are.<BR>><BR>>>
Albedo.<BR>>> Definition:
White, spongy inner part of citrus fruit
rind.<BR>><BR>>>
comment: IS THIS SAME AS ENDOCARP if so we can add as
synonym.<BR>><BR>><BR>> OK, or endocarp is strictly applied to the
inner epidermis of the<BR>> fruit
wall.<BR>><BR>><BR>>><BR>>>
Flavedo.<BR>>> Definition:
Outer part of the rind of citrus fruit, bearing
oil<BR>>> glands and
pigments.<BR>>> comment:
IS THIS SAME AS EXOCARP if so we can add as synonym..<BR>><BR>><BR>>
OK, or exocarp is strictly applied to the outer epidermis of the fruit
wall.<BR>><BR>><BR>>><BR>>>
Rind<BR>>> Definition: The
outer covering of certain fruit; also
referred<BR>>> to as
peel or skin<BR>>>
comment: IS THIS SAME AS PERICARP if so we can add as
synonym..<BR>><BR>><BR>> This would have to be looked at on a
case-by-case basis. The rind of a<BR>> citrus = pericarp, but there is also
another definition which means<BR>> "the tough outer wall of a fruit you have
to cut off to get to the innards".<BR>><BR>> P.<BR>><BR>>> Juice
sac<BR>>> Definition
??<BR>>> More info
at<BR>>> <A
href="http://www.chineseplantscience.com/earticle_read.asp?id=12171">http://www.chineseplantscience.com/earticle_read.asp?id=12171</A><BR>>>
<<A
href="http://www.chineseplantscience.com/earticle_read.asp?id=12171">http://www.chineseplantscience.com/earticle_read.asp?id=12171</A>><BR>><BR>>>
Thanks<BR>>> Pankaj<BR>><BR>><BR><BR><BR>--<BR>Pankaj
Jaiswal<BR>G-15, Bradfield Hall<BR>Dept. of Plant Breeding and
Genetics<BR>Cornell University<BR>Ithaca, NY-14853, USA<BR><BR>Ph.
+1-607-255-3103 / 4199<BR>fax: +1-607-255-6683<BR></DIV></FONT></BODY></HTML>