i agree- you dont really know what stage is affected.<br>
thats why I think a more accurate term is the process term not a body part or stage.<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 6/14/05, <b class="gmail_sendername">Pankaj Jaiswal</b> <<a href="mailto:pj37@cornell.edu">
pj37@cornell.edu</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Once again this is a curation anomaly like whether the glass is half
<br>empty or half full. A curator can instead say that<br><br>entity:vegetative stage<br>attribute: phase/length<br>value: extended<br><br>In this paper<br><a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=12148532&query_hl=42">
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=12148532&query_hl=42</a><br>The RCN1/2 overexpression can give a severe phenotype with no-heading.<br>Means the plant never reached the vegetative phase. Then what?
<br><br>entity:reproductive stage<br>attribute: timing<br>value: absent??<br><br>Or may require two annotations<br><br>entity:vegetative stage<br>attribute: phase/length<br>value: extended<br><br>entity:reproductive stage
<br>attribute: timing<br>value: delayed/absent??<br><br>In any case Gramene is not doing the EAV type annotations for the<br>moment, though we intend to do it sometime next year.<br><br>-Pankaj<br><br><br>Leonore Reiser wrote:
<br><br>> Pankaj<br>><br>> Now that there are terms that define stages of plant development-<br>> could these mutants be annotated to 'reproductive stage'<br>> so in PATOese<br>> that might be something like
<br>> entity:reproductive stage<br>> attribute: timing<br>> value: early or late?<br>><br>> Ill hopefully get a chance to talk to Sean May from NASC at the<br>> Arabidopsis meeting and see what he thinks about their annotations as
<br>> well and maybe compare notes on flowering time mutant annotation.<br>><br>> Leonore<br>><br>><br>> On 6/10/05, Pankaj Jaiswal <<a href="mailto:pj37@cornell.edu">pj37@cornell.edu</a><br>> <mailto:
<a href="mailto:pj37@cornell.edu">pj37@cornell.edu</a>>> wrote:<br>><br>><br>> <<a href="http://www.plantontology.org/amigo/go.cgi?action=plus_node&depth=1&search_constraint=terms&query=PO:00201482">
http://www.plantontology.org/amigo/go.cgi?action=plus_node&depth=1&search_constraint=terms&query=PO:00201482</a><br>> <<a href="http://www.plantontology.org/amigo/go.cgi?action=plus_node&depth=1&search_constraint=terms&query=PO:00201482">
http://www.plantontology.org/amigo/go.cgi?action=plus_node&depth=1&search_constraint=terms&query=PO:00201482</a>>><br>><br>><br>> Refer to:<br>> <a href="http://www.plantontology.org/amigo/go.cgi?view=details&show_associations=terms&search_constraint=terms&depth=0&query=PO:0020148">
http://www.plantontology.org/amigo/go.cgi?view=details&show_associations=terms&search_constraint=terms&depth=0&query=PO:0020148</a><br>> <<a href="http://www.plantontology.org/amigo/go.cgi?view=details&show_associations=terms&search_constraint=terms&depth=0&query=PO:0020148">
http://www.plantontology.org/amigo/go.cgi?view=details&show_associations=terms&search_constraint=terms&depth=0&query=PO:0020148</a>><br>><br>> Looks like we need a specific instance of SAM, ie. "vegetative shoot
<br>> apical meristem". The current term is too generic for curating<br>> vegetative SAM.<br>><br>> The reason being, I am curating a lot of flowering time genes and<br>> many<br>> are involved in regulating the transition of vegetative SAM to
<br>> reproductive SAM. This event is critical in short-day or long-day<br>> light<br>> response resulting in early/delayed flowering.<br>><br>> Current structure is like follows:<br>><br>
><br>> # PO:0020148 : shoot apical meristem ( 32 )<br>><br>> * PO:0000224 : central zone<br>> * PO:0006362 : embryonic shoot apical meristem<br>> * PO:0000229 : floral meristem
<br>> * PO:0000230 : inflorescence meristem<br>> * PO:0009020 : meristem L1<br>> * PO:0009021 : meristem L2<br>> * PO:0009022 : meristem L3<br>> * PO:0000225 : peripheral zone
<br>> * PO:0005039 : primary thickening meristem<br>> * PO:0000226 : rib zone<br>> * PO:0006306 : shoot procambium<br>> --------------------------------------------------<br>>
<br>> Proposed<br>><br>> # PO:0020148 : shoot apical meristem ( 32 )<br>> i PO:new : vegetative shoot apical meristem<br>> p PO:0000224 : central zone<br>> i PO:0006362 : embryonic shoot apical meristem
<br>> p PO:0009020 : meristem L1<br>> p PO:0009021 : meristem L2<br>> p PO:0009022 : meristem L3<br>> p PO:0000225 : peripheral zone<br>> p PO:0005039 : primary thickening meristem
<br>> p PO:0000226 : rib zone<br>> p PO:0006306 : shoot procambium<br>> i PO:new : reproductive shoot apical meristem<br>> i PO:0000229 : floral meristem<br>> i PO:0000230 : inflorescence meristem
<br>><br>><br>> PO:0020148 : shoot apical meristem<br>> Def: current<br>> Meristem formed in the apex of the shoot, including meristems<br>> originating as axillary shoot meristems.<br>
> Def: proposed<br>> Meristem formed in the apex of the shoot or those originating as<br>> axillary and reproductive meristems.<br>><br>> PO:new : vegetative shoot apical meristem<br>> Def: proposed
<br>> Copy the original SAM definition.<br>><br>> PO:new : reproductive shoot apical meristem<br>> Def: proposed<br>> Meristem formed in the apex of the shoot originating as<br>
> inflorescence and or flower meristems.<br>><br>> -Pankaj<br>><br>><br><br></blockquote></div><br>