my pleasure- its been bugging me for quite a while- lets hope for some constructive discussion at this point.<br>
Leo<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 6/10/05, <b class="gmail_sendername">Felipe Zapata</b> <<a href="mailto:fzqhd@umsl.edu">fzqhd@umsl.edu</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
what a nice way to point out what has been a recurrent point of disagreement on the construction/conceptualization/use of POC:<div><br><div><span class="q"><blockquote type="cite">I think it is a big mistake to try and use the Plant Ontologies to describe every mutant phenotype- its just not possible.
<br></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div>Thanks Leonore,</div><div><span class="e" id="q_1046831efe71ed34_3"><div><br></div><div>F</div><div><br></div><br><blockquote type="cite"> <br> <br> Leonore<br> <br> <br> <br><div>
<span class="gmail_quote">On 6/10/05, <b class="gmail_sendername">Pankaj Jaiswal</b> <<a href="mailto:pj37@cornell.edu" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">pj37@cornell.edu</a>> wrote:
</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <br><<a href="http://www.plantontology.org/amigo/go.cgi?action=plus_node&depth=1&search_constraint=terms&query=PO:00201482" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
http://www.plantontology.org/amigo/go.cgi?action=plus_node&depth=1&search_constraint=terms&query=PO:00201482 </a>><br><br><br>Refer to:<br><a href="http://www.plantontology.org/amigo/go.cgi?view=details&show_associations=terms&search_constraint=terms&depth=0&query=PO:0020148" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
http://www.plantontology.org/amigo/go.cgi?view=details&show_associations=terms&search_constraint=terms&depth=0&query=PO:0020148 </a><br><br>Looks like we need a specific instance of SAM, ie. "vegetative shoot
<br>apical meristem". The current term is too generic for curating<br>vegetative SAM.<br><br>The reason being, I am curating a lot of flowering time genes and many <br>are involved in regulating the transition of vegetative SAM to
<br>reproductive SAM. This event is critical in short-day or long-day light<br>response resulting in early/delayed flowering.<br><br>Current structure is like follows: <br><br><br># PO:0020148 : shoot apical meristem ( 32 )
<br><br> * PO:0000224 : central zone<br> * PO:0006362 : embryonic shoot apical meristem<br> * PO:0000229 : floral meristem<br> * PO:0000230 : inflorescence meristem <br> * PO:0009020 : meristem L1<br> * PO:0009021 : meristem L2
<br> * PO:0009022 : meristem L3<br> * PO:0000225 : peripheral zone<br> * PO:0005039 : primary thickening meristem<br> * PO:0000226 : rib zone <br> * PO:0006306 : shoot procambium<br>--------------------------------------------------
<br><br>Proposed<br><br># PO:0020148 : shoot apical meristem ( 32 )<br> i PO:new : vegetative shoot apical meristem<br> p PO:0000224 : central zone <br> i PO:0006362 : embryonic shoot apical meristem<br> p PO:0009020 : meristem L1
<br> p PO:0009021 : meristem L2<br> p PO:0009022 : meristem L3<br> p PO:0000225 : peripheral zone<br> p PO:0005039 : primary thickening meristem <br> p PO:0000226 : rib zone<br> p PO:0006306 : shoot procambium
<br> i PO:new : reproductive shoot apical meristem<br> i PO:0000229 : floral meristem<br> i PO:0000230 : inflorescence meristem<br><br><br> PO:0020148 : shoot apical meristem<br>Def: current<br> Meristem formed in the apex of the shoot, including meristems
<br>originating as axillary shoot meristems.<br>Def: proposed<br> Meristem formed in the apex of the shoot or those originating as <br>axillary and reproductive meristems.<br><br>PO:new : vegetative shoot apical meristem
<br>Def: proposed<br> Copy the original SAM definition.<br><br>PO:new : reproductive shoot apical meristem<br>Def: proposed<br> Meristem formed in the apex of the shoot originating as<br>inflorescence and or flower meristems.
<br><br>-Pankaj<br><br></blockquote></div><br></blockquote></span></div></div><br><div> <p style="margin: 0px;"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none;" face="Helvetica" size="3">
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