<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; ">what a nice way to point out what has been a recurrent point of disagreement on the construction/conceptualization/use of POC:<DIV><BR><DIV><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">I think it is a big mistake to try and use the Plant Ontologies to describe every mutant phenotype- its just not possible. <BR></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Thanks Leonore,</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>F</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><BR><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"> <BR> <BR> Leonore<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR><DIV><SPAN class="gmail_quote">On 6/10/05, <B class="gmail_sendername">Pankaj Jaiswal</B> <<A href="mailto:pj37@cornell.edu">pj37@cornell.edu</A>> wrote:</SPAN><BLOCKQUOTE class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <BR><<A href="http://www.plantontology.org/amigo/go.cgi?action=plus_node&depth=1&search_constraint=terms&query=PO:00201482">http://www.plantontology.org/amigo/go.cgi?action=plus_node&depth=1&search_constraint=terms&query=PO:00201482 </A>><BR><BR><BR>Refer to:<BR><A href="http://www.plantontology.org/amigo/go.cgi?view=details&show_associations=terms&search_constraint=terms&depth=0&query=PO:0020148">http://www.plantontology.org/amigo/go.cgi?view=details&show_associations=terms&search_constraint=terms&depth=0&query=PO:0020148 </A><BR><BR>Looks like we need a specific instance of SAM, ie. "vegetative shoot<BR>apical meristem". The current term is too generic for curating<BR>vegetative SAM.<BR><BR>The reason being, I am curating a lot of flowering time genes and many <BR>are involved in regulating the transition of vegetative SAM to<BR>reproductive SAM. This event is critical in short-day or long-day light<BR>response resulting in early/delayed flowering.<BR><BR>Current structure is like follows: <BR><BR><BR># PO:0020148 : shoot apical meristem ( 32 )<BR><BR> * PO:0000224 : central zone<BR> * PO:0006362 : embryonic shoot apical meristem<BR> * PO:0000229 : floral meristem<BR> * PO:0000230 : inflorescence meristem <BR> * PO:0009020 : meristem L1<BR> * PO:0009021 : meristem L2<BR> * PO:0009022 : meristem L3<BR> * PO:0000225 : peripheral zone<BR> * PO:0005039 : primary thickening meristem<BR> * PO:0000226 : rib zone <BR> * PO:0006306 : shoot procambium<BR>--------------------------------------------------<BR><BR>Proposed<BR><BR># PO:0020148 : shoot apical meristem ( 32 )<BR> i PO:new : vegetative shoot apical meristem<BR> p PO:0000224 : central zone <BR> i PO:0006362 : embryonic shoot apical meristem<BR> p PO:0009020 : meristem L1<BR> p PO:0009021 : meristem L2<BR> p PO:0009022 : meristem L3<BR> p PO:0000225 : peripheral zone<BR> p PO:0005039 : primary thickening meristem <BR> p PO:0000226 : rib zone<BR> p PO:0006306 : shoot procambium<BR> i PO:new : reproductive shoot apical meristem<BR> i PO:0000229 : floral meristem<BR> i PO:0000230 : inflorescence meristem<BR><BR><BR> PO:0020148 : shoot apical meristem<BR>Def: current<BR> Meristem formed in the apex of the shoot, including meristems<BR>originating as axillary shoot meristems.<BR>Def: proposed<BR> Meristem formed in the apex of the shoot or those originating as <BR>axillary and reproductive meristems.<BR><BR>PO:new : vegetative shoot apical meristem<BR>Def: proposed<BR> Copy the original SAM definition.<BR><BR>PO:new : reproductive shoot apical meristem<BR>Def: proposed<BR> Meristem formed in the apex of the shoot originating as<BR>inflorescence and or flower meristems.<BR><BR>-Pankaj<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><DIV> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">..............</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">Felipe Zapata</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">University of Missouri St. Louis</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">Department of Biology</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">8001 Natural Bridge Rd.</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">St. Louis, MO 63121 USA</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">p.314.516.6200</FONT></P><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></P> </DIV><BR></DIV></BODY></HTML>