Proposal for the new term in Plant Structure Ont: middle layer

[Vincent, Leszek]

I support Toby's view & understand Katica's counter of the placement of
the term. My compromise for consideration is provide information in the
comment field where the 'middle layer' term's affinity can be explicitly
stated. That way, should the PO structure be changed down the line the
term's affinity would still be interpretable. Still, my slight
preference is for a more explicit term (Toby's choice) so that affinity
is clearly recognizable from the term name - straight off.

- Leszek
 

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Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 1:38 PM
To: po-dev at plantontology.org; Kellogg, Elizabeth A.
Subject: Re: Proposal for the new term in Plant Structure Ont: middle
layer

Hi Toby,

I know, I mentioned it yesterday on the conf call. However, its position

in the ontology leaves little doubt what the term is. We have other
terms 
that have a bit uninformative term name, for example, 'protective
layer', 
or 'separation layer', of the abscission zone; it becomes obvious only 
when you see the ontology tree (and definition too).

'Middle layer of the anther wall' as a term name, I guess if we have to 
(to avoid confussion), it wouldn't be the worst name out there. Google
search retrieved mostly middle layer of the anther wall. I did find
'middle 
layer' in description of the intervascular pit membranes in some woody
species (Salix, Acer...). Peter and Quentin could tell us more about how

often this term is used in anatomy of woody species.

Katica


On Sat, 7 Jan 2006, 
kellogge wrote:

> hi Katica -
>   My only concern is that "middle layer" is such an uninformative term
on 
> its own.  I"m wondering if this is a case where we need to call it
"middle 
> layer of anther wall".  (I know - I'm suggesting a complex term where
one 
> isn't strictly needed.  It just seems that there are a lot of things
that 
> could have middle layers.)
> Toby
>
> On Jan 6, 2006, at 6:50 PM, katica at acoma.Stanford.EDU wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> This is the proposal for introduction of the new term in the Plant 
>> Structure Ontology, 'middle layer':
>> 
>> New term name: Middle layer
>> Definition: Usually a single cell layer between tapetum and
endothecium 
>> which almost invariably degenerates early during angiosperm anther 
>> development and is eventually absorbed by adjacent cells.
>> 
>> Proposed ontology structure:
>> 
>> PO:0000002 : anther wall
>> (p) PO:0020002 : endothecium
>> (p) PO:0020004 : exothecium
>> (p) PO:0020005 : placentoid
>> (p) PO:0020101 : stomium
>> (p) PO:0009071 : tapetum
>> (p) new term: middle layer
>> 
>> I am planning to introduce this term to the PO a week from today,
unless 
>> active discussion takes place regarding this term over the next week
at 
>> po-dev mailing list. I would greatly appreciate your comments and 
>> suggestions.
>> 
>> Thanks and have a great weekend.
>> 
>> Katica Ilic
>> 
>> 
>>
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