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Hi,<br>
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Kurt Stueber at the max Planck Institute for Plant Breeding Research is
currently scanning historical botany books, and making them available
on the Internet.<br>
There may be some useful drawings available from some of his pages.<br>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.biolib.de/">http://www.biolib.de/</a><br>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://caliban.mpiz-koeln.mpg.de/~stueber/thome/band1/tafel_051_small.jpg">http://caliban.mpiz-koeln.mpg.de/~stueber/thome/band1/tafel_051_small.jpg</a><br>
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Dean Ravenscroft<br>
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Dave Matthews wrote:
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  <pre wrap="">Hi Maarten,

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    <pre wrap="">From <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:maarten.vanginkel@dpi.vic.gov.au">maarten.vanginkel@dpi.vic.gov.au</a>  Fri Dec 16 22:17:09 2005

Dave,

Do you know where I could find a botany or taxonomy text with clear (pen)
drawings of the florets, spikelets and spikes of wheat and its progenitors?
Most modern texts have photos, while I need the classical precise pen
drawings.

Regards,
            Maarten
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I'm stumped.  Passing this along to others who may be able to help.

The best resource I know for the progenitors is "Wild Wheat", but those
are all photos.  For what it's worth, they're all in GrainGenes,
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wheat.pw.usda.gov/report?class=reference&name=MOR-353">http://wheat.pw.usda.gov/report?class=reference&amp;name=MOR-353</a>

For non-comparative purposes, just wheat:

Gramene is working on this.  They have some good drawings for rice,
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.gramene.org/oryza/rice_illustrations.html#oryzaspikelet">http://www.gramene.org/oryza/rice_illustrations.html#oryzaspikelet</a>
but not yet for wheat as far as I can find,
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://dev.gramene.org/triticum/triticum_anatomy_and_taxonomy.html">http://dev.gramene.org/triticum/triticum_anatomy_and_taxonomy.html</a>

Keith Edwards' "Wheat: the big picture", <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.wheatbp.net">http://www.wheatbp.net</a>,
has some good photos.  Not drawings but they are labeled.  E.g.
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.wheatbp.net/cgi-bin/grain2.pl?topic=Flowering+and+fertilisation&sub_topic=Anthesis:+floret+pictures&GS=5&sub=2">http://www.wheatbp.net/cgi-bin/grain2.pl?topic=Flowering+and+fertilisation&amp;sub_topic=Anthesis:+floret+pictures&amp;GS=5&amp;sub=2</a>

There are a couple of drawings of a general grass floret at
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.pssc.ttu.edu/pss1321/Web%20topics/cpa2.htm">http://www.pssc.ttu.edu/pss1321/Web%20topics/cpa2.htm</a>

I hope someone can help with this.  It would be a good thing to add
to GrainGenes.

best,
- Dave

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